Comic 208 - Who Could It Be?

26th Nov 2019, 11:00 PM
Who Could It Be?
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LegendaryLycanthrope 27th Nov 2019, 1:06 AM edit delete reply
why did trevor say gypsies in the first panel, then romani in the eighth? if he knows the proper designation, shouldn't he be using it in both instances?

and what does sonabic mean? i tried googling it, but i got results that have no relation to scrying implements
PeterVonBrown 27th Nov 2019, 1:35 AM edit delete reply
I ultimately decided to use both 'gypsy' and 'Romani' as per what the 'wolves say. Partly in a force of habit kind of way (for them). No disrepect is meant in the least. It's just so ingrained into the folklore of werewolves, especially in (or by) the Universal films. That and it "breaks up" the overuse of seeing/hearing one word. Plus, "Romani curse" doesn't sound quite right to me - both in the hearing of it and because it's ludicrous and insulting. However, since I'm using the fictional aspect of the culture, saying 'gypsy', at least to me, helps maintain the "lore" side of their inclusion. If that makes any sense. In terms of the comic, the 'wolves view/say/use the terms in a similar manner. For isntance, in this case, Trevor mentions their wagons. Now of course these are real in our history, but they are also entrenched into a mythos, elevated to a certain level of ROMANIticism, so to speak. In other words, vardo wagons are their own cliché, having grown beyond their reality via imagination and storytelling, and therefore would be closer to the term "gypsy". The bottom line for real history or the comic's: the people and their culture should be honored, respected and celebrated, as with any.

Trevor will ask this same question in the first panel of the next page. :) I created the word for the comic.
LegendaryLycanthrope 27th Nov 2019, 1:47 AM edit delete reply
what cliche do vardo wagons have? i know they carry goods, supplies and the romani themselves since they basically act as mobile housing and form the basis of any romani camp - is there more to them than that?
PeterVonBrown 27th Nov 2019, 1:50 AM edit delete reply
I just meant that, for good or bad, they're wildly associated with the Romani. They've become "expected" or over glorified as in a trope.
LegendaryLycanthrope 27th Nov 2019, 2:17 AM edit delete reply
LegendaryLycanthrope's essentially a 'other cultures likely also use the wagons and probably not all romani groups use them, but 'gypsy' is the first thing someone thinks when they see one and if you have 'gypsies' in a movie or whatever WITHOUT the wagons, someone's going to think the producers done woofed up' situation?
PeterVonBrown 27th Nov 2019, 2:57 AM edit delete reply
Iggzacklee. :)
Much love
Indagare 2nd Dec 2019, 12:58 PM edit delete reply
Love the comic so far! I'm curious why male 'wolves tend not to have headfur like females do. Dmitri is the only male I can recall having it. I know some women don't either (as Madge demonstrates), but it seems more common among them.
(Obvious aside.)
PeterVonBrown 2nd Dec 2019, 11:48 PM edit delete reply
The trope would certainly apply! However, I do have an explanation from my end. When I began making the 'wolves ever so long ago I didn't think of them as specific or reoccurring characters beyond Talbot. Just various tuft, eye, snout and head shapes. Plus, I rarely if ever colored them. Just pencil drawings. I also tended to make only male 'wolves. No real bias or reason - though most likely influenced by the Smurf figurines (which I'd collected as a kid way before the cartoon series began)! So they never really had much call or notice for "extra" or colored hair. Force of habit, then? :)

It did get me wondering, however, how often I do show a male 'wolf with "hair" besides Dmitri. So I had a look through. First, we can't forget the Burgermeister himself - Basil, as well as everybody's favorite bartender in Wolverton - Larry. There are quite a few 'extras' who sport hair and coloring. They can be found on pages 65, 96, 101, 104, 108, 122, 125, 173. Also, there's an upcoming named male character with colored hair.

Thanks so much for loving the comic and for the comment, Indagare! Feel free to ask away about anything else.
Indagare 3rd Dec 2019, 5:49 AM edit delete reply
Ah! Thanks! Weird, I didn't notice all of those! Maybe it's bias on *my* part (which is odd, because I usually notice guys).

Call me Indy! I was just going to ask how hair (or fur) coloring worked--whether the color is retained in both forms or if it 'heals' back to a natural color when they change. I mean, technically, someone could get a whole body dye if they wanted!

Oh have you ever heard of Thiess of Kaltenbrun? Very interesting werewolf lore with him!
PeterVonBrown 3rd Dec 2019, 9:31 AM edit delete reply
Well, Indy, the answer to your fur coloring question will be answered in the comic directly. In fact, I just wrote the script that deals with it sometime last week. However, given that I'm rather far ahead, the answer unfortunately won't come until April 8. If you don't mind, I'd like to let the character/s answer it. Hope you can wait that long! :/

I most certainly have heard of Thiess. Lots of info and details in the comic, so perhaps it slipped by you. Floyd, Talbot and Darkfang live in Thiess Hamlet. And Larry's place can be found there as well. Have another look at page 37. ;) Also seen or mentioned on 46, 53, 79, 82, 112, 122, 153, 154, 159, 160 & 169. And yes, interesting lore with him indeed. I especially like that it's "real", so I'd been quite taken with Thiess, and named the hamlet where three of the main characters live after him.
Indagare 3rd Dec 2019, 9:05 PM edit delete reply
April 8 is right next to my birthday, so I can wait. :-3

I should have realized that sooner, but so few people have heard of Thiess.

Thanks so much for the responses!
PeterVonBrown 3rd Dec 2019, 10:31 PM edit delete reply
Thanks so much for reading and for the comments and questions! :D

Admittedly, I didn't know of Thiess until I began researching werewolfery heavily for the comic. :)
LegendaryLycanthrope 4th Dec 2019, 2:15 AM edit delete reply
i knew of him for a few years after i really got into werewolves, after i purchased several werewolf 'encyclopedias' i guess you'd call them from my local B&N

i forgot most of the details about him until i found this comic though, and went to look him up again after i realized the name was a reference

he really does have an interesting background - one of the few good werewolves in those times, and also one of the few to escape execution despite being a self-confessed werewolf